Part Two of A Two-Part Interview with Ellington
Darden, Ph.D.
by Drew Baye
In
Part 2, Ell discusses his early strength training with Ken Hutchins
and he voices his opinion of SuperSlow. He answers questions about
Mike and Ray Mentzer (there’s a funny story here), timed
static contractions, negative work, and specialized routines.
Then, he details why and how his new high intensity training book
is different from previous HIT approaches.
Introduction
I received many positive comments about the first part of this
interview. Most of you were fascinated by by Ell’s descriptions
of Arthur Jones and Casey Viator during the 1970s, and more recently,
how Dave Hudlow gained 18 pounds of muscle in two weeks. Several
days ago, I welcomed an advance copy of The New High-Intensity
Training. Large-sized, well-designed, clearly
written, excellent routines, and inspiring photography –
it’s easily the best-high intensity training book on the
market today.
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Question: Ken Hutchins,
the architect behind the SuperSlow philosophy, and you grew up
in the same town in Texas. Was their something in the environment
or education system that motivated you guys into weight training?
Answer: It is interesting
that both Ken and I were raised in Conroe, Texas, which is 30
miles north of Houston. I was 8 years older than Ken and I didn’t
really didn’t have much contact with him until my fourth
year of college. When Ken started high school he became a friend
to one of my Conroe classmates, Philip Alexander, who was in medical
school in Houston. Ken’s dad was a physician in town and
Philip visited him often to gain practical knowledge.
In late 1967, Alexander invited Hutchins and me to his wedding
and at the reception afterward, Ken began talking to me about
strength training and bodybuilding. Hutchins was a beginner and
I had been training seriously for a number of years. He had a
lot of questions for me and I had to dig pretty deep for some
of the answers.
Concerning the educational system in Conroe, small-town football
was big in Texas. Some of the football coaches, who encouraged
me to lift weights from 1958 to 1962, also encouraged Hutchins
in the late 1960s.
Hutchins and I both has access to weights through the school
system. Plus, I had a fairly good setup in my parents’ garage,
and when I visited my parents during the holidays and summer,
Hutchins would often join me for workouts. During one of my stopovers
in 1970, I introduced Hutchins to several Nautilus-styled HIT
routines and I could tell he was impressed. As a result, I gave
him some articles by Arthur Jones to ponder. Ken always came back
for more, and perhaps most importantly, asked intelligent questions.
When Hutchins was a senior in high school, Conroe had one of
the best football teams in Texas. The team was composed of several
all-state players, each of whom weighed well over 225 pounds.
Ken’s parents would not permit him to play football. But
Ken often strength trained with the team and was significantly
stronger than the top players.
Conroe’s head football coach, W. T. Stapler, who had been
there for 10 years, told me that Hutchins bench-pressed 50 pounds
more and dealifted 100 pounds more than the strongest guys on
the team. Hutchins’ lifts, he said, always motivated the
players to get stronger, but none ever exceeded Ken’s poundages.
When I graduated from Conroe High School in 1962, I was the strongest
student athlete in most of the basic strength-training exercises.
In 1970, when Hutchins graduated, the high school was five times
larger and Ken was the strongest male in school. Furthermore,
he bench-pressed and deadlifted significantly more weight in 1970
than I did in 1962.
In a local physique contest, however, Hutchins would have been
pressed to finish in the top 10 (just kidding, Ken). Make no mistake
– Ken Hutchins was one strong, Texas teenager.
Florida Beckons
Question: When Nautilus
hired you, did Ken visit you in Florida?
Answer: When I joined
Arthur Jones and Nautilus in 1973, it wasn’t long before
Hutchins drove to Florida to see for himself what was happening.
After multiple visits, Hutchins was hired in 1977 by our sports-medicine
orthopedist to be his assistant. Hutchins was mostly involved
in the physical therapy side of Nautilus, which finally led to
his supervisory position in a Nautilus-sponsored osteoporosis
research project at the University of Florida Medical School in
1982. It was during this project, which continued for four years,
that Hutchins tested and applied the initial SuperSlow protocols.
During the 10 years that Ken worked at Nautilus, he and I were
involved in four major strength-training and fat-loss projects,
as well as dozens of Nautilus-related seminars and workshops.
Today, I live approximately 25 miles from Ken. We remain great
friends and I try to see him once a month.
Opinion of SuperSlow®
Question: What’s
your opinion of Hutchins’s SuperSlow?
Answer: I like SuperSlow.
I apply many of the techniques in my workouts each week. Without
getting into the finer points of the SuperSlow philosophy, I want
to say simply: Ken Hutchins carefully studied repetition form,
which was and is a subset of HIT, and turned it into a full-fledged
business. And I’m glad he did.
If Arthur Jones’s specialty is intensity, then Ken Hutchins’s
forte is form. I’m grateful that I’ve spent as much
time as I have with both Jones and Hutchins.
A Stormy Night In Georgia
Question: Do you have
an interesting story about Ken Hutchins that you could share?
Answer: The first thing
that pops into my mind happened in Atlanta, Georgia, one night
in February 1980. Ken and I had been involved in a Nautilus seminar
and we were waiting to fly back to Daytona Beach. It was about
20 degrees outside and the Atlanta airport was the middle of an
ice storm, so all flights were delayed. There we were with thousands
of frustrated people and a couple of hours to burn.
Ken was sitting next to me and we began sorting through our strength-training
slides, since we had both given talks using a 35mm-slide projector
earlier in the day. After a while, Ken asked me what I thought
about his new section, which he called “Exercise Versus
Recreation.”
A little background is necessary here.
Ken and I, for several years, had tried various approaches during
Nautilus seminars to debate people who believed they needed daily
aerobic activity to be healthy. Proper strength training, we felt,
was more than an adequate way to work the muscles and heart. And
strength training was a lot safer than the most popular aerobic
activities, such as jogging and aerobic dancing, which were the
latest crazes. Ken’s exercise/recreation section explained
how to define exercise (which involved disciplined overload and
was not fun), and then how to separate it from recreation (which
required no overload and was enjoyable). His conclusion was to
accept exercise for what it is, hard work, and not try to make
it recreation or fun.
I told Ken that compartmentalizing exercise and recreation was
on-target and I thought his new concept was going to help our
cause. As we discussed the topic further, I glanced across the
lobby, which was in the center of four departure-arrival gates.
Sitting about 30 yards away was a man who was also examining slides
and arranging them in a carousel. As I focused on the guy, I recognized
him. It was Dr. Kenneth Cooper.
At that time, Cooper was the #1 running guru, as a result of
a couple of best-selling books on aerobics. Furthermore, he was
generally thought of as being anti-strength training, anti-HIT,
and anti-Nautilus.
A couple of years earlier, at one of the industry’s annual
fitness conventions, Hutchins had been involved in a panel discussion
that included Cooper. Cooper, answering a question, knocked strength
training. Hutchins wanted to respond, but didn’t. Since
then, he’d regretted not speaking up.
As a result, Hutchins and I improvised a plan.
We figured Cooper did not know how to define exercise clearly,
at least not in the vernacular that Hutchins had conceived. Hutchins
was going to ease over and take a seat beside Cooper. After some
small talk, he was going to ask him bluntly to define exercise.
We then expected some locking of horns to occur.
I was going to watch the deliberations from my angle for 10 minutes,
and join the action. We’d effectively double team Cooper
– and help him understand exercise, generally and specifically,
and then share with him the advantages of strength training on
Nautilus equipment.
With the plan in mind, Hutchins hurried over – but just
as he approached, an older woman took the seat beside Cooper.
No problem, he simply dropped down on one knee in front of Cooper
and continued.
I noticed that Cooper was being very animated and seemed to be
expressing himself well. But since Hutchins had his back toward
me, it was difficult to gauge what was happening on Ken’s
side. At the planned 10-minute mark, I walked over. The lobby
was even more crowded, so I had to kneel on the floor beside Hutchins.
There we were: Ken Hutchins and Ellington Darden kneeling at
the feet of Dr. Kenneth Cooper, while he lectured to us on aerobic
exercise. We both tried at least a half-dozen times each, to wedge
a comment into Cooper’s dissertation. But it was no use.
The man seemed to project a mesmerizing spell on us and we soon
found our heads nodding to concepts that were directly against
what we believed. After another 30 minutes had passed, all the
seats in the lobby were overflowing with people, and we had little
to do but keep kneeling and nodding. It felt like we were in the
middle of an old-fashioned tent revival.
Finally, the storm cleared, and the three of us boarded the same
plane to Daytona Beach. (Cooper was speaking at a hospital’s
grand opening the next morning.) Thank goodness, Hutchins and
I were not seated near Cooper, as our heads and necks needed rest.
Our double-team plan had failed. We had been steam-rolled, and
worse – captivated somehow by what we heard. In fact, we
ended up chauffeuring Cooper to his hotel. We bid him good night
and invited him to visit us the next day at the Nautilus headquarters,
if time allowed. We never heard from him.
But that wasn’t the end of the story.
Four years passed . . . and a mutual friend told me that Cooper
still didn’t care for strength training. But he had recently
signed off on the purchase of two lines of Nautilus machines for
his Aerobics Center in Dallas, primarily because of two hospitable
Nautilus guys he’d talked with one stormy night in the Atlanta
Airport. One thing Cooper appreciated, our mutual friend noted
(and this was no joke), was that we had not raved to him about
Nautilus.
Sometimes, being unable to express yourself can produce an unexpected
benefit.
Timed Static Contractions
Question: Thanks, that’s
a fascinating story. I’ve heard Hutchins blast Cooper’s
philosophy, but I never knew he had an influence on the Aerobics
Center in Dallas purchasing Nautilus. To change the subject .
. . timed static contractions have become popular with some instructors
for use with clients who can’t perform certain exercises
through a full range of motion due to physical problems or injuries.
Since they involve no movement and have no potential for negative
work, which hypothetically would produce little microtrauma, what
do you think of their value for stimulating muscular size increases
relative to full-range exercise?
Answer: I certainly
think timed static contractions have value. I’ve tried them
several times and I’ve definitely felt the tension. Someone
somewhere should be doing a large-scale research project to help
us understand more about their place in short- and long-term exercise.
Compared to full-range exercise, I’d have to say that full-range
exercise – given that you’re dealing with healthy
trainees – would supply many more benefits. For example,
full-range exercise provides more thorough muscular strengthening,
more stretching for flexibility, more work for the cardiorespiratory
system, and more calorie-burning ability from the overall workout.
Arthur Jones noted more than 30 years ago that negative-work
potential was perhaps the most important aspect of the muscle-building
process. Studies since then have confirmed much of what Jones
believed concerning negative work. So at least from that perspective,
static contractions are lacking.
As you stated, however, there’s a place for timed static
contractions in exercising people who have certain limitations.
Arthur Jones and Negative Work
Question: In your book,
you discuss the importance of negative work in building muscle.
Was Arthur Jones the first person to introduce negative work to
bodybuilding?
Answer: Negative work
(eccentric muscle action) was kicked around haphazardly in the
physiology world before Jones came on the scene. But it wasn’t
until Jones started experimenting and writing about negative work
in 1972, that any bodybuilder took it seriously. I read all the
bodybuilding magazines from 1959 until 1972, and I never came
across anything remotely similar to the emphasis and guidelines
Jones placed on lowering a heavy weight.
Today, if you walk into any serious gym in the United States
(or in the world), “doing negatives” is a regular
part of a lifter’s vocabulary. We can thank Arthur Jones
for that.
Mike Mentzer and Nautilus
Question: In chapter
9 of your new HIT book, you talk about meeting and working with
Mike Mentzer. I thought Mike would have thrived being around Nautilus
and Arthur Jones. What happened?
Answer: Mike moved to
Lake Helen, Florida, in 1983 and worked for Nautilus approximately
6 months. And you’re correct, you’d have thought that
with his devotion to hard training, he’d have been on cloud
nine.
When I was around Mike, we got along fine. Mike and his girlfriend,
Julie McNew, came over to my home several times for dinner and
we had some far-reaching conversations, none of which had much
at all to do with bodybuilding.
The strange thing was that the entire 6 months Mike was at the
Nautilus headquarters, I never saw him take an intense workout.
There were several times when he appeared to be interested, but
it quickly faded. He seemed to be in a perpetual training drift,
looking for someone or something to take his oars and row him
to shore. But when someone or something emerged, Mike would jump
overboard or make himself invisible.
After Mike left Nautilus and returned to California, I heard
he experienced severe depression and went through lengthy periods
of drug therapy. I also read that much of his depression was related
to Arnold Schwarzenegger defeating him in the 1980 Mr. Olympia,
a contest Mike thought he should have won. (By the way, I agreed
with Mike’s assessment.) During the competition, Mike and
Arnold had a bitter argument that was never settled, and worse,
continued to fester.
None of that helped Mike’s health, and unfortunately, he
died of a heart attack in 2001 at the age of 49.
Heavy Duty Books
Question: What did you
think of Mentzer’s Heavy-Duty books?
Answer: I was a fan
of Mike’s books, especially the ones that chronicled his
training for the 1978 Mr. Universe and the 1980 Mr. Olympia. Who
knows? If Mike would have won the Olympia, the world of professional
bodybuilding might now be significantly different.
Generally, Mike Mentzer’s writings, success in contests,
and inspiring photographs influenced bodybuilders everywhere to
train harder and briefer. In 1978, at Sean Harrington’s
Nautilus club in Los Angeles, I witnessed Mike go through a true
HIT workout. He handled almost the entire weight stack on every
Nautilus machine and his workout was almost equal to what Casey
Viator could have done in his prime. I was impressed.
Ray Mentzer's Strength
Question: In your book,
you also mention Mike’s younger brother Ray. Ray Mentzer
was even stronger than Mike, right?
Answer: Yes he was.
While Mike showed little desire to train intensely in Lake Helen,
Ray was just the opposite. He was frequently up for a hard workout.
I trained him multiple times. After a while, we would have to
pin additional weight on most of the Nautilus machines. He was
that strong. Ray handled the entire weight stack, 500 pounds,
on the Nautilus duo-squat machine with ease. I never witnessed
anyone else get a single rep with the entire stack – and
there were a lot of big, strong athletes who tried.
Ray was the first bodybuilder I ever saw who weighed 250 pounds
or more, in fairly lean condition. There are a few in that category
today, but there weren’t any in 1983.
Joe Mullen, a former Nautilus club owner, recently told me that
he saw Ray go through a HIT workout in 1999. “On our Nautilus
leg-extension machine, Ray did 290 pounds for 10 good repetitions,”
Mullen said, as he paused and cleared his throat.
In my mind, I’m thinking . . . “290 pounds on the
Nautilus leg extension machine, I believe I’ve done that
much.”
Having cleared his throat, Mullen continued . . . “With
one leg.”
That’s right, Ray Mentzer did single leg extensions in
a normal positive-negative manner with 290 pounds, which is equivalent
to handling 580 pounds with both legs.
That reinforced to me that Ray Mentzer was the strongest man
I’ve ever trained, and I’ve been training people for
more than 40 years.
More on Ray
Question: I’ve
read that Ray Mentzer was somewhat of a comedian. Did he ever
do any amusing things around Nautilus?
Answer: Ray did have
a sense of humor and he often had a joke up his sleeve. He prided
himself in being able to “keep a straight face,” which
threw you off, until you figured out his style. Arthur Jones had
some of that ability, too.
One of the funniest Ray Mentzer/Arthur Jones stories occurred
during the summer of 1983. At that time, Nautilus had three, state-of-the-art
television studios in Lake Helen. Jones had an interest in producing
how-to videos on many aspects of sports medicine. It wasn’t
unusual for Jones to discuss various deals with well-known athletes,
or their agents.
One day, Martina Navratilova, the famous tennis player phoned.
She was intending to do a series of instructional videotapes and
wanted to check out the studios in Lake Helen. Could someone from
Nautilus pick her up at the Orlando International Airport the
next day at 11:00 AM?
Maybe it was Martina’s tone of voice, or maybe she forgot
to say please, whatever it was, it didn’t set right with
Jones. The next morning he instructed Ray Mentzer to meet Martina
at the airport and escort her back to Lake Helen. Ray had massive
20-inch arms and 30-inch thighs. He was so big that all he could
wear to work were stretchable Ban-Lon shirts and Bugle-Boy pants.
Arthur told Ray to put on his brightest, horizontal-striped shirt
(he didn’t want Martina to miss him) and be sure and drive
the old, unwashed, company car, which had a broken air-conditioner
(that meant he’d have to roll down all the windows so air
could circulate).
Finally, Jones informed Ray that once he was back in Lake Helen,
to give the lady a tour – starting with the barn. In the
middle of the Nautilus compound was a non-descript, 30- by 50-foot,
metal building, which was the home of 40 large crocodiles that
Jones had brought in from Jamaica.
By now, you should get the picture.
According to Ray, he got more attention at the airport than Martina
did, the dirty car turned her off, and the ride back to Lake Helen
was hot, both in temperature and in conversation.
Then, there was the tour through the barn. Ray neglected to tell
Martina that there were dangerous crocodiles inside. Instead,
he announced that combating successfully what was on the interior
was the final test of a Nautilus obstacle course, and let her
enter ahead of him. That curveball sent Martina scrambling for
a phone. Evidently, her interest in seeing the video studios had
vanished. She called a cab and within 15 minutes, was on her way
to Orlando.
“I offered to drive her back – even told her I’d
run the car through a Jiffy Wash,” Ray deadpanned afterward.
“She had promised to help me later with my tennis serve.
I don’t know what went wrong.”
New High Intensity Training Book Differences
Question: How is your
book, The New High-Intensity Training, different from other HIT
books, such as those written by John Little, Stuart McRoberts,
Brian Johnston, and Matt Brzycki?
Answer: I cover some
similar topics, such as intensity, form, and progression. But
my book’s differences can be grouped as follows:
• History: In my opinion, Arthur Jones, more than any single
individual, developed high intensity training. Thus, I spend about
half of my 272-page book relating the stories and experiences
of Jones. No other training book has this type of history or background
material, which I believe is worthwhile and meaningful in understanding
the why of HIT.
• Photography: To illustrate the history, I also have more
than a hundred photographs from the 1970s that are placed throughout
the text.
• Whole-body routines: To quote Arthur Jones, “Split
routines make about as much sense as sleeping with one eye open.”
Each routine in the new HIT features at least some exercise for
both your upper body and lower body. Why? Because organized properly,
you get better results. All the other HIT books eventually have
you performing split routines.
• Not-to-failure (NTF) workouts: Several chapters and a
detailed chart illustrate precisely how to integrate NTF workouts
into your standard HIT routines for best-possible results. Furthermore,
the chart and routines extend for longer than a year. No other
HIT books covers NTF training.
As you can see, my book is distinct from the others.
Andy McCutcheon and High Intensity Training
Question: I also think
that the bodybuilder you use to illustrate your HIT exercises
has an outstanding build. Who is he?
Answer: He’s Andy
McCutcheon and he’s been using HIT principles since 1988,
when he trained at Dorian Yates’s gym in Birmingham, England.
McCutcheon placed high in a few contests in Great Britain and
relocated in 1992 to Portland, Oregon, where he became an engineer
for Novellus Systems. I first noticed McCutcheon six years ago,
when close-ups of his arms and torso were featured on the award-winning
Bowflex commercial.
“Who is that muscular guy?” I thought to myself.
I found out in 2001, when Andy was selected to demonstrate the
exercises for my book, The Bowflex Body Plan. After working with
McCutcheon for week, I knew he’d be ideal to use for The
New High-Intensity Training. When we took the HIT photography,
38-year-old McCutcheon weighed 184 pounds, at a height of 6-feet
even, and I personally measured his body fat at 3.4 percent.
Question: Shoot straight
with us. Does McCutcheon actually train on Bowflex?
Answer: People ask him
that all the time, and I’ll shoot straight with you. McCutcheon
trains by himself in his basement. He has a Bowflex Ultimate machine
and he uses it two or three times a week. He also has several
bars and 400 pounds of free weights. His overall routines include
about 50-percent Bowflex exercises and 50- percent free-weight
exercises. McCutcheon believes in simple, get-as-strong-as-you-can,
basic exercises. And, he’s into the martial arts, so he
does some of that several times a week.
Specialized Routines
Question: In part IV
of your book, you devote a chapter to each of eight different
specialized routines. As examples, you have a routine for thighs,
calves, chest, arms, and waist. Out of curiosity, which one do
you like the best?
Answer: To paraphrase
Arthur Jones, “Rather than the best, I’ll tell you
the one that I like the least, which will be the routine that
I need the most.”
That being the case, then I must go with chapter 16: shocking
your hips and thighs. This chapter describes a three-exercise
leg cycle. The last of the three exercises: extremely slow leg
presses, 4 repetitions in 120 seconds, will rock your world but
good. I’ve experimented with all styles of leg presses and
this one is the hardest of all.
First, you need to have access to an efficient leg-press machine,
one that you can adjust by moving the seat forward to prevent
you from locking the knees. Use about half the weight (50 percent)
that you’d normally use. Important, you must have a clock
or a watch with a second hand that you can place in plain sight.
Or a training partner with a watch can talk your through each
phase.
Your goal is for each repetition to take 30 seconds: 15 seconds
on the positive and 15 seconds on the negative. The entire movement
needs to be fluid and controlled. Pay particular attention to
the bottom turnaround. Stay focused and keep the tension and the
movement smooth and slow. That fourth repetition will be a bear,
but you should be able to finish it – which will build your
confidence for your next workout.
For your next workout, I want you to increase the resistance
by 25 percent (which is 75 percent of your normal resistance for
10 repetitions). Now, you’ll experience some of the reasons
why this is my least favorite routine. If you can accomplish 4
repetitions with this weight in 120 seconds, you’ll be ready
to add the two pre-exhaustion exercises before you do the leg
press.
Anyway, review chapter 16 to find out all the how-tos.
Rodale's Marketing Plan
Question: The publisher
of your new HIT book is Rodale. Rodale also is behind a number
of magazines, such as Men’s Health and Prevention. How were
they to work with? Are they planning anything special to promote
your book?
Answer: Over the last
25 years, I worked with a lot of major publishing houses, such
as Little Brown, Simon & Schuster, Contemporary Books, and
Putnam. Rodale is the best of the bunch. They have a New York
City office, but the majority of their publishing house in located
in Emmaus, Pennsylvania, which is a quaint community in the foothills
of the Blue Ridge Mountains.
My initial contact with Rodale occurred 5 years ago when Ken
Hutchins introduced me to a Bill Stump, an editor from Men’s
Health (a Rodale magazine), who was in Orlando interviewing Ken.
Stump later introduced me to the guy who eventually became the
editor of The New High-Intensity Training.
When I visited Rodale’s main photography studio in Emmaus,
I met with my editor, Lou Schuler, who also is the fitness director
for Men’s Health. I assumed one of the Men’s Health
design team would be assigned to do the layout of my book. Instead,
the book was assigned to Carol Angstadt, of Rodale’s women’s
publishing group, who had never before been involved with a bodybuilding
book. In the past, with my bodybuilding books from other publishers,
I had always worked with a man on the design and layout. I was
a bit worried.
Halfway through the photo shoot, I could tell that Carol was
quickly getting a handle on the subject matter. Once I saw her
creative design and layout, I realized that she had leapfrogged
significantly my other bodybuilding books.
Thanks to Lou Schuler, who did a superb job with editing my words,
and Carol Angstadt, who made the format and illustrations pop
with excitement, The New High-Intensity Training is going to be,
in my opinion, my best book yet.
Rodale’s marketing team assures me that the book will be:
• Excerpted in Men’s Health MUSCLE magazine (September
issue).
• Advertised in Muscle & Fitness and Ironman magazines
(November and December 2004 issues).
• Targeted to fitness and bodybuilding press, newsletters,
and Web sites
• Promoted with an extensive Internet media campaign.
Overall, I’m very pleased with what’s happening with
the book.
Number of Bodybuilders Using High Intensity Training
Question: How many bodybuilders
do you figure are interested in HIT?
Answer: Lou Schuler,
who was recently appointed editor of Rodale’s newest magazine
called, Men’s Health MUSCLE, asked me the same question
a while back. We researched the HIT interest and here’s
what we concluded about our audience:
In the early 1980s, when HIT was at its height of popularity,
about 16 percent of bodybuilders in the United States were involved
with it. Today, that percentage of involvement has shrunk by half,
which leaves approximately 8 percent.
The latest statistics from the Sports Goods Manufacturers Association
reveals that approximately 20,000,000 males in the United States
are actively involved in bodybuilding and strength training. Thus,
taking 8 percent of that number indicates that 1,600,000 males
are into HIT.
But perhaps more importantly, research shows that with that sliding
8 percent, if there was a unified HIT push, it could rather quickly
increase back 16 percent, or 3,200,000 trainees.
It would be impossible to sell a book to each of those existing,
1.6 million trainees. But I believe it’s a reasonable goal
to aim for one-tenth of that number during the first year after
publication. That would amount to 160,000 copies sold of The New
High-Intensity Training in 12 months.
My original Nautilus book, initially published in 1980 and revised
five times, sold more than half a million copies. A goal of 160,000
for The New HIT seems reachable.
High Intensity Training Versus High Volume Training
Question: If you place
those potential HIT users on the far left side a normal, bell-shaped
curve, what would you label those on the far right side –
high-volume trainees?
Answer: Yes that’s
precisely what we were thinking. As HIT decreased its following
from 16 to 8 percent, high-volume training (HVT) increased its
numbers from 16 to 24 percent. All of us should strive to win
back those previous HIT believers.
And of course, let’s not forget about that middle 68 percent,
the wishy-washy majority, who have trouble believing seriously
in any training philosophy for very long. Surely, with the correct
instruction and motivation, we can turn a reasonable percentage
of them into HIT believers.
New Projects
Question: Are you currently
working on anything new and exciting?
Answer: I have a couple of projects in the formative stages. One
deals with a follow-up to my 1995 book, Living Longer Stronger,
which was written for men between the ages of 40 and 60. This
new one will be directed to men over 60 years of age. Why? Because
that’s now my age and someone needs to write sensibly for
this group of men. The other project is best described by its
working title: Accentuate the NEGATIVE: The Negative Way to Positive
Fat Loss.
Also, I’m in the process of updating my Web site, which
was called Classic X. It will be reintroduced under the name of
DrDarden.com, and it will include a lot of new and old stuff related
to HIT.
When Joe Cirulli, Jim Flanagan, Joe Mullen, and I visited Arthur
Jones on July 29, 2004, some thought-provoking discussion took
place concerning a new HIT concept. In fact, Cirulli has been
testing it for the last six months in his fitness center in Gainesville.
It involves a very unique way to vary the repetition number, as
well as the slowness of each repetition. I’ll report on
the discovery this fall, so I encourage interested readers to
give me a holler at www.DrDarden.com. |